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NRA Likens Universal Checks To Gun Registry

In this Jan. 30, 2013, file photo Wayne LaPierre, National Rifle Association CEO, testifies as supporters and opponents of stricter gun control measures face off at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on what lawmakers should do to curb gun violence. (J. Scott Applewhite/AP File)

In this Jan. 30, 2013 file photo Wayne LaPierre, National Rifle Association CEO, testifies as supporters and opponents of stricter gun control measures face off at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on what lawmakers should do to curb gun violence. (J. Scott Applewhite/AP File)

WASHINGTON — The National Rifle Association’s executive vice president continued to oppose background checks for all gun purchases despite polls indicating that most NRA members don’t share his position.

The NRA’s Wayne LaPierre said on “Fox News Sunday” that background checks for all gun purchases would lead to a national registry of gun owners. Critics say such a registry could lead to taxes on guns or to confiscation.

Mark Kelly, a gun owner and husband of Gabrielle Giffords, the former Arizona congresswoman who survived a 2011 shooting, asked LaPierre to listen to his members. He said the current system prevented 1.7 million gun purchases since 1999. However, those potential buyers had other options because many gun sales don’t require a background check.

“Members of the NRA tend to be very reasonable on this issue,” Kelly said, who also appeared on the Fox show.

As Congress responds to the spate of mass shootings in recent years, most notably the December massacre of 20 children and six adults in a school in Newtown, Conn., some are calling for a ban on certain semi-automatic weapons and on high-capacity ammunition magazines. However, calls for expanding background checks appear to have gained the most bipartisan support.

LaPierre said that requiring checks for all gun purchases would be a bureaucratic nightmare.

“It’s going to affect only the law-abiding people,” he said. “Criminals could care less.

LaPierre was pressed about his contention that gun checks would lead to a national registry, when no one from the Obama administration is calling for that.

“And Obamacare wasn’t a tax until they needed it to be a tax,” LaPierre said.

Kelly and LaPierre agreed on one point: More people seeking to buy guns illegally should be prosecuted.

“They should be prosecuted and there should be stiff penalties,” Kelly said.

A key player in the coming gun debate in Congress, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, said on ABC’s “This Week” that he’s willing to take a look at legislation that would ban certain semi-automatic weapons, but he also noted that he voted against a ban on such weapons in 1994 because it “didn’t make sense.”

He was more definitive on the issue of background checks, saying “everyone acknowledges we should do something with background checks.”

Reid said his goal is for the Judiciary Committee to report out a gun bill. Senators could subsequently seek amendments on the Senate floor. That way, if the bill didn’t contain certain provisions, such as the ban on certain weapons, then sponsors would at least get a vote on their proposal and lawmakers would have to go on the record about where they stand.

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  • Futo Buddy

    it seems like a pretty obvious slippery slope. first uiversal background checks, then a “database” aka registry, then confiscation. what comes next? I hope we never have to find out

  • Jan Ward

    Kelly, and the other anti gunners need to stop with this fraudulent claim that the majority of NRA members want stricter gun control, want background checks, etc…The NRA does not release their membership lists to anyone, so this so-called “survey” of NRA members is a fraud….

    The antis want gun registration, and that ha always lead to to some form of gun confiscation…It happened in Australia, to happened in Britain, it happened in Canada….

  • rich4321

    Well, every car owner are required to register their car, every home owner have to register their house. Why shouldn’t a lethal weapon such as guns be registered? Are the gun owners afraid to be held responsible if their weapons cause death? Do the gun owners think they are above the law?

    • Futo Buddy

      umm if someone commits a crime with a gun in theory they are held responsible under current law. why limit it to guns why not require the registration of bats and bows and arrows and bricks and lets not forget the knife, the rope, candlestick,lead pipe and wrench? really we should have anything pointy or hard registered with the federal govt right?

    • Doug 560

      I have yet to see a case where a firearm’s registration status was the sole deciding factor leading to a criminal conviction. There are millions of historical examples of the results of registration, confiscation.and civil rights suppression. They’re buried in such places as China, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, just to name a few. Additionally the Bill of Rights recognized and codified civil rights natural to all people. Restricting the government’s ability to interfere. Finally the 2nd Amendment is written in absolute language. As is the 10th Amendment. In short, what part of “Shall Not Be Infringed” don’t you understand.

  • peterlake

    Registration in Nazi Germany in 1928 and 1938 was the first step toward confiscation.
    Jews were prohibited from owning firearms on November 11, 1938.
    How’d that turn out?

    Are criminals going to register their guns?
    Let me know when that happens and then I’ll register mine.

    • Futo Buddy

      not to mention the govt has a poor record of keeping data secure. do we want out enemys or terrorists to have the list? if not we should not make the list because we know they are unable to keep it secure.

  • Doug 560

    With registration, followed by confiscation, Australia and England have experienced extreme increases in violent crimes such as Home Invasion (with the occupants present), Murder, Rape and Robbery. They are currently some of the most dangerous countries in the world, with more violent crime involving guns and knives, than before prohibition.

    I’m unaware of anyone identified as a prohibited person trying to buy a firearm from a Federally Licensed Dealer ever being arrested or tried for the offense.

    During the Clinton Administration the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) illegally kept personal information for background checks for at least six months. Under existent law an individual completes a Federal Firearms Registration Form at the Federally Licensed Firearms Dealer. The dealer contacts the government and verbally relays the purchaser’s data. The government issues an authorization number which is entered on the registration form. After seventy-two hours, the government is required by law to destroy the individual’s information while retaining a record of the issued authorization number.unless the person is prohibited from purchasing firearms. If the person is prohibited from possessing firearms, the information may be used in a criminal proceeding.

    In other matters: A Federally Licensed Firearms Dealer retains the Federal Firearms Registration Form in his records until his license is reissued or he goes out of business. At that time all Federal Firearms Registration Forms are to be sent to the BATFE for storage. During the Clinton Administration there were reports of BATFE using the stored Federal Firearms Registration forms to construct a computer data base. This has been prohibited by federal law since 1968. As a result of these and other BATFE abuses, Congress has cut BATFE budgets to prevent the data base formation. 2. The United Nations has repeatedly supported what is known as the International Small Arms Trade Treaty. This treaty purported to be concerned with illegally trafficked military small arms is actually the suppression of private firearms ownership. Enforcement of the treaty will suppress all civil rights. Secretary Clinton supported this treaty in its last incarceration in 2012. Reportedly, the morning after his reelection, President Obama sent a letter to the United Nations requesting the treaty be “revisited”.

    In-case you are unaware, in a previous case, the Supreme Court determined an international treaty, signed by the president and ratified by the Senate, supersedes the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    In another Supreme Court Case it was determined a felon could not be required to register a firearm, since doing so as a prohibited person would be self incrimination and a violation of his 5th Amendment Rights

    Just for arguments sake, we get 100 percent background checks. This means I couldn’t leave my guns to my wife, kids, or give one to a friend, without government permission. Eventually the background check becomes registration (See Clinton Administration comments above) . Then when the government thinks the time is right, confiscation. Just one little problem. There are a lot of people out here who believe the Bill of Rights, means what it says. In its simple, common language anyone except lawyers and judges understands. Not what activist judges have distorted it to mean. As a result many people will not register their firearms, buying and trading them illegally. Needless to say, these people are instant felons facing draconian fines and imprisonment. Now suppose you are one of those who believes the government should go door to door and search for these firearms. Please have the courage of your convictions; volunteer. Join the agency responsible for conducting these searches and may you receive quality training and have the best equipment possible. But before you step out the door on your first mission, please make me your life insurance beneficiary. Since firearms were created, every improvement in equipment or technique has come about due to individual initiative. You’ll be facing the people, members of the firearm culture, who developed these innovations. People who on a daily, weekly or monthly basis, fire more rounds in training, competition, or hunting than you as member of your agency, a policeman or soldier fires in a year. (Don’t forget the techniques the police and soldiers use, the techniques you would be trained in, were first developed by civilians).

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