Expert On Possible Blue Cross Status Shift: 'Movement Without Progress'

That move, Sager noted, would spare Blue Cross scrutiny by the attorney general on practices including executive compensation (like, say, paying out $11 million to an outgoing CEO.)

Listen to their interview here.

My favorite Sager quote: "There are no villains here, and Blue Cross has certainly been trying, in its way, to address health care costs. But this may be another example — this proposal to change to a mutual — another example of movement without progress in health care."