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NPRStolen Climate E-Mails Cause A Ruckus In Congress

A coal-fueld power station emits vapor into the sky in the United Kingdom - Coal-fueled power stations like this one in Warrington, United Kingdom, are said to be contributing to global warming. But e-mail messages stolen from a group of climate scientists recently are fodder for skeptics who say global warming is a plot, not a real problem. (Christopher Furlong / Getty Images)

A congressional hearing that was supposed to be a routine recap of global-warming science Wednesday turned into a fracas involving e-mails stolen from some prominent climate scientists.

The e-mails were stolen from the University of East Anglia in Britain, from one of the three labs in the world that constructs global temperature records. The private exchanges have become a goldmine for skeptics who argue that global warming is a plot rather than a real man-made problem.

At Wednesday's hearing before a House select committee, Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) called for an investigation of the e-mails. He said at best, official reports about global warming will now need to be reviewed.

(Christopher Furlong / Getty Images)

"At worst, it's junk science and it's part of a massive international scientific fraud," he said. And not just fraud: "There's increasing evidence of scientific fascism that's going on. And I think, as policymakers who are making decisions about the state of the American economy for the next several generations, we ought to have accurate science."

President Obama's top science adviser, John Holdren, agreed that the e-mails should be thoroughly investigated. At issue is whether they provide evidence of scientific malfeasance, or just bad manners.

"Scientists are human, and from time to time they display defensiveness and bias and even misbehavior of some kinds," Holdren said. "They're like any other group of human beings. They're subject to human frailties. I think the facts are not in on this particular case."

Holdren agreed that if the e-mails reveal inappropriate data manipulation, and that ended up in official reports, obviously those reports would need to be corrected.

"However this particular controversy comes out, the result will not call into question the bulk of our understanding of how the climate works or how humans are affecting it," he added.

Evidence from many different sources shows that the air and oceans are warming as a result of greenhouse gases humans are putting into the atmosphere. Jane Lubchenco, a scientist who heads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, gave a tabletop demonstration at the hearing to show how increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is also making the oceans more acidic.

Those explanations didn't reassure some Republican members of the committee. In response, Rep. Jay Inslee (D-WA) said he was stunned by their skepticism. He said if global warming is a fraud, it must be perpetrated by a conspiracy of scientists from all around the world.

"I just wanted to ask you if you're part of that massive international conspiracy," he said to the witnesses, adding with a note of sarcasm, "Are either one of your members of the Trilateral Commission, SPECTRE or KAOS? I just need an answer."

Holdren replied: "Congressman Inslee, I am not a member of any of those organizations, and I don't believe there's an international conspiracy. That would be an amazing thing indeed."

Holdren pointed out that national academies of science from all around the world accept the reality of human-induced global warming, as do other leading science organizations and the United Nations.

Inslee then noted that nobody else in the room had any other plausible way to explain why carbon dioxide is building up in the air and in the oceans. "And yet people are trying to gin up this controversy. You know why? It's not that they aren't intelligent. It's that they are afraid that we can't solve this problem."

He argued that we can solve the problem, but the challenge is that most of the public — including members of Congress — struggle to understand even the basic science. And now, the leaked e-mails raise doubts about some of the climate scientists, too.

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Transcript

MICHELE NORRIS, host:

This is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News. I'm Michele Norris.

MELISSA BLOCK, host:

And I'm Melissa Block.

Today, a congressional hearing that was supposed to be a routine recap of global warming science got a bit heated. Republicans on the committee raised the issue of emails that were stolen from prominent climate scientists. The Republicans said the emails cast doubt on all climate science.

NPR's Richard Harris reports.

RICHARD HARRIS: The emails were stolen from the University of East Anglia in Britain, from one of the three labs in the world that constructs global temperature records. The private exchanges have become a goldmine for skeptics who argue that global warming is a plot rather than a real, manmade problem.

At today's hearing, Republican Representative James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin said at best, official reports about global warming will now have to be reviewed.

Representative JAMES SENSENBRENNER (Republican, Wisconsin): And at worst, it's junk science, and it is a part of a massive, international scientific fraud.

HARRIS: And not just fraud, he said.

Rep. SENSENBRENNER: There's increasing evidence of scientific fascism that's going on. And I think, as policymakers who are making decisions about the state of the American economy for the next several generations, that we ought to have accurate science.

HARRIS: The president's top science adviser, John Holdren, agreed that the emails should be thoroughly investigated. At issue is whether they provide evidence of scientific malfeasance, or just bad manners.

Mr. JOHN HOLDREN (Director, White House Office of Science and Technology Policy): Scientists are human and from time to time, they display defensiveness and bias and even misbehavior of some kinds. They're like any other group of human beings. They are subject to human frailties. I think the facts are not entirely in on this particular case.

HARRIS: Holdren agreed that if the emails reveal inappropriate data manipulation, and that ended up in official reports, obviously, those reports would need to be corrected.

Mr. HOLDREN: However this particular controversy comes out, the result will not call into question the bulk of our understanding of how the climate works or how humans are affecting it.

HARRIS: Evidence from many different sources shows that the air and oceans are warming as a result of greenhouse gases that humans are putting into the atmosphere.

Jane Lubchenco, a scientist who heads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, gave a tabletop demonstration at the hearing to show how increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is also making the oceans more acidic.

Those explanations didn't reassure some Republican members of the committee and Democrat Jay Inslee, of Washington State, was stunned by their skepticism. He said, somewhat sarcastically: If global warming is a fraud, it must be perpetrated by a conspiracy of scientists from all around the world.

Representative JAY INSLEE (Democrat, Washington): So I just want to ask you if you're part of that massive, international conspiracy, are either one of you members of the Trilateral Commission, SPECTRE or KAOS?

(Soundbite of laughter)

Rep. INSLEE: I just need an answer.

Rep. HOLDREN: Congressman Inslee, I am not a member of any of those organizations, and I do not believe that there is a conspiracy. It would be an amazing thing indeed.

HARRIS: Holdren pointed out that national academies of science from all around the world accept the reality of human-induced global warming, as do other leading science organizations and the United Nations.

Inslee then noted that nobody else in the room had any other plausible way to explain why carbon dioxide is building up in the air and in the oceans.

Rep. INSLEE: And yet, people are trying to gin up this controversy because - you know why? It's not because they're not intelligent, it's because they're afraid that we can't solve this problem.

HARRIS: He says we can, but the challenge here is that most of the public, including members of Congress, struggle to understand even the basic science. And now, the leaked emails raise doubts about some of the climate scientists.

Richard Harris, NPR News.

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