U.S. Exports Cultural War To Uganda
The battle over the Bible and homosexuality has torn apart Christian churches and entire denominations in the United States. But what happens when that culture war is exported to other countries? Ugandans are finding out — with potentially deadly consequences.
Uganda is now considering a bill that would impose the death penalty or life in prison on gay men and lesbians for some homosexual acts.
To understand how this bill came to be, one needs to know the story of King Mwanga. In 1886, Uganda's king ordered some two dozen male pages to have sex with him, and when they refused because of their Christian faith, he ordered that they be burned to death. Every year on June 3, Ugandans celebrate a national holiday honoring the Christian martyrs and deploring the pedophile king.
Into this climate stepped Scott Lively, an American evangelical and president of Defend The Family International. In March 2009, Lively traveled to Uganda to speak, along with two other Americans from "ex-gay communities," about the "gay agenda."
"The gay movement is an evil institution," he told Uganda's Family Life Network. "The goal of the gay movement is to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity."
Then Lively, who has authored a book called The Pink Swastika, played into the fears raised by Uganda's history.
"Male homosexuality has historically been, not adult to adult; it's been adult to teenager," he said. "It's called pederasty — adults sodomizing teenage boys."
Later in his trip, Lively addressed the Ugandan Parliament on the gay issue, recommending therapy to help people leave their gay lifestyle. A few months later, a bill was introduced to execute people for some homosexual acts.
Lively says he never suggested putting the death penalty into bill, and he says he thinks the bill goes too far.
"But the fact that they're willing to stand up and say, 'No, we are not going let you homosexualize our country!' — that is a step in the right direction, and I would hope that it would spread to other countries," he says.
Lively is considered a fringe player in the American culture wars. But in recent years, mainstream evangelicals in the U.S. have forged close spiritual and financial ties with their biblically conservative African brothers. For example, dozens of Episcopal churches and even some dioceses have left the U.S. church to go under the authority of Anglican bishops in Uganda, Nigeria and Rwanda — primarily over the gay issue.
Jim Naughton, a former canon in the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, D.C., says their message plays one way in the U.S., but differently in a place like Uganda. And they should have known.
"If you go to countries where there's already a great deal of suspicion and maybe animosity towards homosexuals, and begin to tell people there, 'Well, actually these people are child abusers, they're coming for their children, that they're the scourge that is being deposited on you by the secular West,' you're gonna get a backlash." Naughton says it's like "showing up in rooms filled with gasoline, and throwing lighted matches around and saying, 'Well, I never intended fire .' "
Many U.S. evangelicals, including Lively, say they are "mortified" by the death penalty provision. Naughton doesn't buy it.
"I think if they were mortified, they would have been mortified immediately," he says. "Instead they were mortified — oh, two, three months into the campaign against this thing, when it was getting real traction."
Megachurch pastor Rick Warren is a case in point. Warren, author of The Purpose Driven Life, has extensive ties with religious leaders in Africa, including Uganda. Initially, he refused to condemn the bill. Finally, two months after the bill was introduced, he urged pastors in Uganda to oppose it.
"We are all familiar with Edmund Burke's insight, 'All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing,' " Warren began. He explained his silence by saying, "It is not my role to interfere with the politics of other nations," then stated that the bill "is unjust, it's extreme, and it's un-Christian."
If Warren was slow to condemn the bill, other Christian conservatives have yet to do so, says Warren Throckmorton, who teaches psychology at Grove City College and has been monitoring U.S. evangelical response. He says some of the Christian groups most publicly tied to Uganda have been the quietest. Joyce Meyer Ministries, Oral Roberts University, the College of Prayer in Atlanta — all have close ties and declined to express reservations about the death penalty.
"Silence is often interpreted as consent," says Throckmorton, who is himself a conservative evangelical. "So I think those kinds of responses may lead those individuals in Uganda to think that perhaps what [they're] doing really is according to the evangelical faith."
"The question is, what's the most effective way to deal with it?" asks Martyn Minns, bishop of the Convocation of Anglicans in North America, a group that broke from the Episcopal Church and is now aligned with Nigeria.
"Sometimes megaphone diplomacy doesn't work," Minns says. "Sometimes quietly talking to folks who will actually shape the final product is more effective."
His group has been working behind the scenes to remove the death penalty from the bill. But Minns also says Uganda has a right to resist the wave of gay activism that he says is flooding in from the West.
"It's hard for any of us who have not lived under colonial rule to realize how offensive it is for people who have won that freedom to now basically be told, 'You're fools. You're ignorant. One day you'll grow up and be like us,' " Minns says. "That comes across in a very patronizing way."
This week Uganda's president called for the bill to be withdrawn, saying it was harming the country's foreign policy. The sponsor has refused to do so, and it is expected to be considered in February. But no matter what happens, the story of Uganda is considered a cautionary tale of what can happen when the West's religious debates are transplanted to another culture.
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DEBORAH AMOS, host:
We're now going to a story in Uganda that begins here in the United States. Homosexuality is an issue that has divided Christian churches here. Some American evangelicals have taken the culture war to Uganda - that with potentially deadly consequences.
NPR's Barbara Bradley Hagerty tells the story.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: To understand why Uganda is considering a bill that imposes the death penalty or life in prison on gay men and lesbians, you need to know the story of King Mwanga.
In 1886, Uganda's king ordered some two dozen male pages to have sex with him, and when they refused because of their Christian faith, he ordered that they be burned to death. Every June, Ugandans celebrate a national holiday in honor of the Christian martyrs and deploring the pedophile king.
Into this climate stepped Scott Lively, an American evangelical, who brought this message to a family life conference in Uganda last March.
Mr. SCOTT LIVELY (Evangelical): Male homosexuality has historically been, not adult to adult, it's been adult to teenager. Adults sodomizing teenage boys.
BRADLEY HAGERTY: Afterwards, Lively spoke to the Ugandan parliament about what he calls the dangers of the gay agenda. A few months later, a bill was introduced to execute people for some homosexual acts. Lively says he thinks the bill goes too far.
Mr. LIVELY: But the fact that they're willing to stand up and say, no, we are not going let you homosexualize our country - that's a step in the right direction. And I would hope that that would spread to other countries.
BRADLEY HAGERTY: Now, Lively is considered a fringe player in the American culture wars. But in recent years, mainstream evangelicals in the U.S. have forged close spiritual and financial ties with their biblically conservative African brothers. Dozens of Episcopal churches have moved under the authority of Anglican bishops in Uganda, Nigeria and Rwanda, over the gay issue.
Jim Naughton, a former canon in the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, D.C., says their message plays one way in the United States, but differently in a place like Uganda.
Mr. JIM NAUGHTON (Episcopal Diocese of Washington, D.C.): They are showing up in rooms filled with gasoline and throwing lighted matches around, and then saying, well, I never intended the fire.
BRADLEY HAGERTY: Now, many U.S. evangelicals, including Scott Lively, say they are mortified by the death penalty provision. Naughton doesn't buy it.
Mr. NAUGHTON: I think if they were mortified, they would have been mortified immediately. Instead they were mortified, oh, two, three months into the campaign against this thing, when it was getting real traction.
BRADLEY HAGERTY: Megachurch pastor Rick Warren is a case in point. Warren has extensive ties with religious leaders in Africa, including Uganda, and initially refused to condemn the bill. Finally, two months after the bill was introduced, he urged pastors of Uganda to oppose it in a video message.
(Soundbite of video message)
Mr. RICK WARREN (Pastor): The potential law before your parliament is unjust, it's extreme and it's un-Christian.
BRADLEY HAGERTY: If Rick Warren was slow to condemn the bill, other Christian conservatives have yet to do so, says Warren Throckmorton, who teaches psychology at Grove City College. He says the Christian groups most publicly tied to Uganda have been the quietest.
Professor WARREN THROCKMORTON (Psychology, Grove City College): Joyce Meyer Ministries, for instance, they didn't want to comment; Oral Roberts University, they didn't want to comment; College of Prayer in Atlanta did not want to get involved, didn't want to issue a statement.
BRADLEY HAGERTY: Throckmorton, a conservative evangelical himself, wonders what message that's sending to Uganda's religious leaders.
Prof. THROCKMORTON: Silence is often interpreted as consent.
Mr. MARTYN MINNS (Bishop, Convocation of Anglicans in North America): The question is, what's the most effective way to deal with it?
BRADLEY HAGERTY: Martyn Minns is bishop of the Convocation of Anglicans in North America, a group that broke from the Episcopal Church and is now aligned with African bishops. Minns says his group has been working behind the scenes to remove the death penalty from the bill, but he also says Uganda has a right to resist the wave of gay activism that he says is flooding in from the West.
Mr. MINNS: It's hard for any of us who have not lived under colonial rule to realize how offensive it is for people who have won that freedom to now, basically, be told - you're fools, you're ignorant. One day you'll grow up and be like us. That comes across in a very patronizing way.
BRADLEY HAGERTY: This week, Uganda's president called for the bill to be withdrawn. No matter what, observers say, the story of Uganda is a cautionary tale of what can happen when the West's religious debates are transplanted to another culture.
Barbara Bradley Hagerty, NPR News. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright National Public Radio.








