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NPRPuerto Rican Birth Certificates Will Be Null And Void

  • Marianne McCune
  • March 18, 2010, 1:53 PM

Antonia Andujar - At a New York cafe, 82-year-old Antonia Andujar says she likes her Puerto Rican birth certificate and has no intention of getting a new one. (Marianne McCune for NPR)

On July 1, all Puerto Rican birth certificates will become invalid. U.S. officials say a big percentage of fraudulent applications for U.S. passports or social benefits use Puerto Rican birth certificates.

So the Puerto Rican government is requiring everyone born on the island to apply for new ones. Among many Puerto Ricans, there's confusion and resentment over the measure.

'Money Buys Everything'

What we're looking for with this law is to resolve maybe at least 90 percent of the problem, not necessarily deal with 100 percent of the problem.
–Kenneth McClintock, secretary of state of Puerto Rico

Edwin Pastrana is a retired cop in New York with a big screen TV, a tank full of tropical fish and a cat he's trying to keep off the couch. Though he was born on the mainland, he's been handing out new birth certificate applications to all the Puerto Rican-born members of his family. He says the Puerto Rican government is right to get rid of the current ones.

"Somewhere along the way, someone's doing funny things with birth certificates," Pastrana says.

It's best to take care of the problem before it balloons, Pastrana says. But he says most everyone else he talks to is irritated, suspicious or confused.

In the apartment downstairs, Pastrana's mother-in-law and sister-in-law, Alicia and Juana Torres, review what they're supposed to do. Alicia Torres, 86, worries she needs to unearth her old birth certificate. Then she reads on the application that, no, she can just send a copy of a valid photo ID.

They'll both do it, they say. But this does not strike Juana Torres as something that will prevent fraud.

"Money buys everything," she says. "Anyone will do anything for money."

So this initiative won't keep all birth certificates off the black market, says Puerto Rico's Secretary of State Kenneth McClintock.

"What we're looking for with this law is to resolve maybe at least 90 percent of the problem, not necessarily deal with 100 percent of the problem," McClintock says.

A Different System In Puerto Rico

McClintock explains that in the 50 states, when parents are asked for their child's birth certificate as proof of age or identity, they make a copy. In Puerto Rico, people have been handing over the actual government-issued document. Some parents end up getting a dozen birth certificates to leave with different agencies.

So schools, for example, or even soccer coaches and ballet teachers, keep files of students' birth certificates, he says. And with so many of them out there, some certificates find their way into the wrong hands.

If a woman dies, and in going through her things, her family throws away a box of files including birth certificates, the family has exposed those certificates to misuse, McClintock says.

Puerto Rico's new law makes it illegal to file away other people's birth certificates.

Harder To Prove Identity

Cesar Perales of the civil rights group Latino Justice says his concern with the whole initiative is that suddenly all Puerto Rican birth certificates appear suspicious. He says stateside Puerto Ricans already have trouble convincing people that their documents are as good as any other American's.

"Just a couple of years ago, the state of New Hampshire decided that people with Puerto Rican passports would be treated like foreigners and had to go to a special office in order to be able to get a driver's license," Perales says.

With this new law, people applying for driver's licenses in other states have already reported having their birth certificates rejected, he says.

"A declaration by the very government of Puerto Rico that birth certificates issued by that government really ought to be suspect — that makes it that much more difficult for people in this country who spent a lot of time proving that they are native-born citizens," Perales says.

Some people are simply attached to their old birth certificates. Sipping a cup of sweet coffee in a local cafe, 82-year-old Antonia Andujar says there's no way she will apply for a new certificate.

"I keep my old one," Andujar says. "It's nice!"

She's also under the impression that she has to send back the old document to get the new one.

For this initiative to work, there's a lot of educating to do. Puerto Rico's government plans to launch a public information campaign in April.

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Transcript

ROBERT SIEGEL, host:

From NPR News, this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. Im Robert Siegel.

MELISSA BLOCK, host:

And Im Melissa Block.

On July 1st, all Puerto Rican birth certificates will become invalid. U.S. officials say many fraudulent applications for U.S. passports and social benefits use Puerto Rican birth certificates. So the Puerto Rican government is requiring everyone born on the island to apply for new ones. Among Puerto Ricans in New York, there is confusion over the measure and some resentment.

From the Lower East Side of Manhattan, Marianne McCune of member station WNYC reports.

MARIANNE MCCUNE: Edwin Pastrana is a retired cop with a big screen TV, a tank full of tropical fish...

Mr. EDWIN PASTRANA (Retired Police Officer): There's about 20 or 30 fish in there.

MCCUNE: ...and a cat he's trying to keep off the couch. Though he was born here, he's been handing out new birth certificate applications to all the Puerto Rican-born members of his family. He says the Puerto Rican government is right to get rid of the current ones.

Mr. PASTRANA: Somewhere along the way, someone's doing funny things with birth certificates. I always say I hate people, there's a reason for it.

MCCUNE: Best to take care of the problem before it balloons, Pastrana says. But he says most everyone else he talks to is irritated, suspicious or confused.

Ms. ALICIA TORRES: Everybody has to send these? It is mandatory or what? Yes?

Ms. JUANA TORRES: It's mandatory, Mommy, yes.

Ms. A. TORRES: Yeah?

MCCUNE: In the apartment downstairs, Pastrana's mother-in-law and sister-in-law review what they're supposed to do, while also watching a tela novella. Eighty-six-year-old Alicia Torres worries she needs to unearth her old birth certificate.

Ms. A. TORRES: You need birth certificate.

MCCUNE: Until she reads on the application that, no, you just send in a copy of a valid photo ID.

Ms. A. TORRES: That's it. It's okay?

MCCUNE: They'll both do it, they say. But this does not strike Juana Torres as something that will prevent fraud.

Ms. J. TORRES: Money buys anything.

(Soundbite of laughter)

Ms. J. TORRES: Anyone will do anything for money. You know?

MCCUNE: Okay, so this initiative won't keep all birth certificates off the black market, says Puerto Rico's secretary of state on his cell phone.

Mr. KENNETH MCCLINTOCK (Secretary of State, Puerto Rico): What we're looking for with this law is to resolve maybe at least 90 percent of the problem, not necessarily deal with 100 percent of the problem.

MCCUNE: Here's the thing, Kenneth, McClintock explains: In the 50 states, when parents are asked for their child's birth certificate as proof of age or identity, they make a copy. In Puerto Rico, people have been handing over the actual government-issued document. Some end up getting a dozen birth certificates to leave with different agencies.

So schools, for example, or even soccer coaches and ballet teachers, keep files of students' birth certificates, he says. And with so many of them out there, some find their way into the wrong hands.

Mr. MCCLINTOCK: You know, your ballet teacher died last week and her daughter found a box with a bunch of files and put it out near the garbage, so it will be taken away by the garbage collector. And in doing so, you're exposing to misuse a box full of 175 birth certificates.

MCCUNE: Puerto Rico's new law makes it illegal to file away other people's birth certificates.

Cesar Perales, of the civil rights group LatinoJustice, says his concern with the whole initiative is suddenly all Puerto Rican birth certificates appear suspicious. And he says stateside Puerto Ricans already have trouble convincing people that their documents are as good as any other American's.

Mr. CESAR PERALES (President/General Counsel LatinoJustice): Just a couple of years ago, the state of New Hampshire decided that people with Puerto Rican passports would be treated like foreigners, and had to go to a special office in order to be able to get a driver's license.

MCCUNE: With this year's news, he says people applying for driver's licenses in other states have already reported having their birth certificates rejected.

Mr. PERALES: A declaration by the very government of Puerto Rico that birth certificates issued by that government really ought to be suspect - that makes it that much more difficult for people in this country who spent a lot of time proving that they are native-born citizens.

MCCUNE: Some people are simply attached to their old birth certificates. Sipping a cup of sweet coffee in a local cafe, 82-year-old Antonia Andujar says no way she will apply for the new certificate.

Ms. ANTONIA ANDUJAR: I keep my old one. It's nice.

MCCUNE: She's also under the impression she has to send back the old document to get the new one.

For this initiative to work, there's a lot of educating to do. Puerto Rico's government plans to launch a public information campaign in April.

For NPR News, Im Marianne McCune in New York. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright National Public Radio.

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