Life On A Kibbutz, In The Shadow Of Gaza
Promo: Life on Kibbutz Gevim (David Gilkey/NPR)
Kibbutz Gevim in Israel's Negev desert is just two miles from the border with the Gaza Strip. Founded 48 years ago, it is a modest agricultural community, home to about 400 Israelis.
The Sa'ar family raised five children there. But for the past eight years, they have been living in fear.
A cease-fire may be in the works, but security is increasing at the kibbutz. The gardens and green spaces have been dug up in preparation.
(David Gilkey/NPR)
Until recently, the kibbutz only had a few temporary communal shelters. Now, each modest cement house will have its own "safe room."
Klok Sa'ar, 62, is in charge of Gevim's security.
"I hate to say this, but we have built [the safe rooms] to protect against atomic, chemical and biological threats because we don't know what the future will bring us," he says.
(David Gilkey/NPR)
Sa'ar says the shelters are long overdue. He complains that the government did little to help protect people at the kibbutz.
As the rocket attacks from Gaza continued, his wife, Simona, says the residents felt abandoned. For the past eight years, they have yearned for something to be done.
"We felt like Israel had forgotten us," she says.
(David Gilkey/NPR)
With Israel's attacks on Hamas, they no longer feel that way.
The couple's 21-year-old son is fighting in Gaza. They have two older sons in the reserves.
This is not what they thought life would be like 48 years ago when they moved to the Negev as young pioneers and started their family.
(David Gilkey/NPR)
"When my oldest boy was born, my father told us, 'Thank God, he will not go into the army.' Now we are very realistic. I pray but I don't believe that my grandchildren will not be in the army," Simona Sa'ar says.
The couple believes Israel made serious mistakes after the 1967 war by occupying Gaza and the West Bank. They were longtime members of Peace Now — opposing the settlements and pushing for negotiations for a two-state solution.
Klok Sa'ar hoped that Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 would be a step toward peace. He says Hamas blew up those hopes.
(David Gilkey/NPR)
"Hamas had the opportunity to negotiate with us, and they didn't take advantage of that," he says.
The years of rocket fire from Gaza have taken a physical and psychological toll. Several buildings have been hit. Simona Klok, who works as a high school guidance counselor, says many people there are traumatized. Many young families have moved out.
There are bombs every day, she says, sometimes only five times a day, sometimes 20, 30 or 40 — "and then we have to run. ... It can be in the middle of the night, in the middle of lunch, of love, in the middle of exams."
She hopes the offensive in Gaza will force Hamas to change.
"I want to believe there is not one Hamas way. I want to believe that some are more progressive or more like Fatah. I don't know," she says.
Unlike his wife, Klok Sa'ar has no faith that Hamas can change. He worries that Hamas will remain powerful.
"I want to see this finished to the end. It doesn't make me happy to say this, but I want Hamas gone from here," he says.
Yet despite his disillusionment over Hamas, Klok Sa'ar still hopes that peace talks with other Palestinians can succeed. He does not believe hardliners like Benjamin Netanyahu, who is running for prime minister, would be good for Israel.
"He would not bring us peace. He is dangerous. He believes in a greater Israel," Klok Sa'ar says of Netanyahu. "I don't see a difference between him and Hamas. Both have maximalist ideas."
Israel's growing isolation in the world pains and confuses the Sa'ars, who believe in peace.
"I feel the world doesn't understand us enough, that right now, this is a war for our existence," Klok Sa'ar says.
To critics who say Israel has used unnecessary force, Simona Sa'ar is unapologetic.
"We have to apologize that we have a strong army? I do not have to apologize that we don't have so many dead," she says.
Even with a possible cease-fire, the Sa'ars' future remains uncertain, and they don't expect their fears — or tension — will go away anytime soon.
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MICHELE NORRIS, host:
From NPR News, this is All Things Considered. I'm Michele Norris.
MELISSA BLOCK, host:
And I'm Melissa Block. Israeli leaders say their offensive in Gaza is close to ending. The cabinet plans to vote tomorrow on a unilateral ceasefire. Israel has demanded that Hamas stop firing rockets from Gaza into Israel.
NORRIS: One place those rockets have landed is Kibbutz Gevim. The Kibbutz is in the Negev Desert just two miles outside the Gaza border. The Sa'ar family raised five children there. As NPR's Anne Garrels reports, the family has spent the past eight years living in fear.
(Soundbite of moving car)
ANNE GARRELS: A ceasefire may be in the works, but security is increasing here. The gardens and green spaces have been dug up in preparation.
Mr. KLOK SA'AR (Head of Security, Kibbutz Gevim): (Through translator) You see the houses with the marks on them? That's where we're going to add a security room.
(Soundbite of hammering)
GARRELS: Until recently, this kibbutz had only a few temporary communal shelters. Now, each modest cement house will have its own. Sixty-two-year-old Klok Sa'ar, who's in charge of security, chose one of the rooms under construction, a small box about 12-by-10.
Mr. SA'AR: (Through translator) I hate to say this, but we built this to protect against atomic, chemical and biological threats because we don't know what the future will bring us.
GARRELS: Klok Sa'ar says the safe rooms are long overdue. He complains the government did little to help protect people here. As the rocket attacks from Gaza continued, his wife Simona, who works as a high-school guidance counselor, says residents felt abandoned.
Ms. SIMONA SA'AR (Resident, Kibbutz Gevim): In eight years, we want that something will be done because we felt like Israel country forgot us.
GARRELS: With Israel's attacks on Hamas, they no longer feel that way. Their 21-year-old son is fighting in Gaza. They have two older sons in the reserves. This is not what they thought life would be like 48 years ago when they moved to the Negev as young pioneers and started their family.
Ms. SA'AR: When my oldest boy was born, my father told us, thank God, he will not go to the army. Now, we are very realistic. I pray, but I even don't believe that my grandchildren will not go to the army.
GARRELS: They believe Israel made serious mistakes after the '67 war by occupying Gaza and the West Bank. They were longtime members of Peace Now, opposing the settlements and pushing for negotiations for a two-state solution. Klok hoped that Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 would be a step towards that peace. He said Hamas blew up those hopes. The years of rocket fire from Gaza have taken a physical and psychological toll here. Several buildings have been hit. Simona says many people here are traumatized. Many young families have moved out.
Ms. SA'AR: Every days, sometimes that's only five times a day, but sometimes it 20 and 30 and 40 bombs, and then we have to run. It can be in the middle of the night, in the middle of lunch, in the middle of love, in the middle of exams.
GARRELS: She hopes the offensive in Gaza will force Hamas to change.
Ms. SA'AR: First of all, I want to believe there is not one Hamas. Maybe some are more progressive or more like the Fatah, and I don't know.
(Soundbite of phone ringing)
Ms. SA'AR: Just a minute. Maybe a call from my son. Hello?
GARRELS: Her son in Gaza. It isn't him. Unlike his wife, Klok has no faith Hamas can change. He worries Hamas will remain powerful.
Mr. SA'AR: (Through translator) It doesn't make me happy to say this, but I want Hamas gone from here.
GARRELS: Yet despite his disillusionment over Hamas, Klok still hopes that peace talks with other Palestinians can succeed. He doesn't believe hardliners like Bibi Netanyahu, who's running for prime minister, would be good for Israel.
Ms. SA'AR: (Through translator) He would not bring us peace. He is dangerous. He believes in a greater Israel. I don't see a difference between him and Hamas.
GARRELS: For this Israeli couple who believe in peace, their country's growing isolation in the world pains and confuses them.
Mr. SA'AR: (Through translator) I feel the world doesn't understand us enough, that right now, this is a war for our existence.
GARRELS: To critics who say Israel has used unnecessary force, Simona is unapologetic.
Ms. SA'AR: We have to apologize that we have a strong army? I have not to apologize that we have not so many deads.
GARRELS: Even with a possible ceasefire, their future remains uncertain, and they don't expect their fears or tension will go away anytime soon. Anne Garrels, NPR News, Kibbutz Gevim on the Israeli/Gaza border. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright National Public Radio.
