Salary Gag Rules Are Illegal, But Still Widespread

President Obama this week signed an executive order that protects lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender federal workers and contractors from employment discrimination. One common form of that is pay discrimination, which can happen for a range of reasons — gender, sexual identity, race or office culture.

But would there be less pay discrimination if there was more transparency about what workers are paid? A number of experts say yes. There's a bill in Congress addressing pay transparency.

Jonathan Timm has been writing about the issue and joins Here & Now's Jeremy Hobson to discuss so-called salary gag rules and his personal experience of bosses breaking the law.