Attackers set off explosions in a bustling shopping area in Indonesia's capital today and then waged gun battles with police.
Five attackers and two civilians were killed and more than two dozen were wounded in the brazen attacks, which followed several warnings in recent weeks by police that Islamic militants were planning something big. ISIS claimed responsibility.
Here & Now's Robin Young speaks with the BBC's Kiki Siregar, who is on the scene.
- Kiki Siregar, correspondent for the BBC in Jakarta. She tweets @Kiki_WSiregar.
This segment aired on January 14, 2016.