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Turkey's President Wages Divisive Referendum Campaign

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has labeled officials in Germany and the Netherlands as "Nazis" and "fascists" for blocking his rallies in support of next month's referendum that would give him more power.

Inside Turkey, people are divided over their leader. His opponents are pro-western and more secular but in the more conservative, religious heartland, he can do no wrong. Here & Now's Jeremy Hobson speaks with the BBC's Mark Lowen (@marklowen), who has been following the story in Turkey.

Note: This BBC interview can be heard in the Here & Now podcast or with the WBUR app.

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