News Organizations Push Against 'Digital Duopoly' Google And Facebook

Thirty-eight percent of Americans rely on the internet as their main source of news, according to a survey by the Pew Research Center. That's good news for Google and Facebook, which make billions in advertising revenue from those readers. But the News Media Alliance, which represents about 2,000 news organizations, is trying to gain more leverage to negotiate deals with the companies.

Here & Now's Meghna Chakrabarti check in with Peter Kafka (@pkafka), senior editor of media for Recode.