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A picture taken on July 10, 2017, shows smoke plumes billowing in the Old City of Mosul during the offensive by the Iraqi force to retake the embattled city from Islamic State (IS) group fighters. (Fadel Senna/AFP/Getty Images)
A picture taken on July 10, 2017, shows smoke plumes billowing in the Old City of Mosul during the offensive by the Iraqi force to retake the embattled city from Islamic State (IS) group fighters. (Fadel Senna/AFP/Getty Images)
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When journalist Michael Goldfarb covered the Iraq War, his translator was a man from Mosul, Ahmad Shawkat. It wasn't safe for the men to stay there, but Shawkat promised Michael they'd return one day for a fish lunch on the banks of the Tigris River in Mosul. Shawkat was later killed so that lunch has never happened.

This week, as Iraq declared victory over ISIS in Mosul, Goldfarb (@MGEmancipation) has been thinking about that promise and what victory over ISIS actually means. He joins Here & Now's Robin Young to talk about it.

This segment aired on July 12, 2017.

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