Baker Says Mass. Still In Holding Pattern During Coronavirus Surge

While the coronavirus pandemic seems to have hit a plateau, there's still no significant drop in the number of people in Massachusetts hospitalized for COVID-19.

Hospitalization numbers need to fall before the state can try to find a new normal, according to Gov. Charlie Baker.

Senior State House reporter Steve Brown joins WBUR's All Things Considered to talk about the latest news, including when Massachusetts businesses may reopen.