Somewhere out there, beneath the pale moonlight of frontier Pakistan, someone's thinking of Americans and George W. Bush and the troops in Iraq. Four years after 9/11 and Bush's unfulfilled "dead or alive" promise, Osama Bin Laden is uncaptured and, as far as we know, alive, well and watching.
According to journalist Mark Danner, the Al Qaeda chief must be thinking that he's winning the war on terror. Four years after Pearl Harbor, America ruled Germany and Japan. Four years after 9/11, a bearded man in the mountains still reigns free.
Hear a conversation with Mark Danner about Osama bin Laden's view of where America's war on terror stands.
Ellen Knickermeyer, Washington Post reporter based in Baghdad;
Mark Danner, Professor of Journalism at the University of California at Berkeley and staff writer for The New Yorker.
This program aired on September 15, 2005.