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WBURWant The Swine Flu Vaccine? That May Take Good Luck And Good Timing

Published October 29, 2009  UPDATED 6:39 AM

SOMERVILLE, Mass. — With the H1N1 swine flu vaccine in high demand and short supply in Massachusetts and nationwide, people considered “high-risk” are supposed to be vaccinated first. But some high-risk patients can’t find the vaccine even though some seemingly healthier patients can. That has many people wondering if there’s any rhyme or reason to how the vaccine is being divvied up.


Ann Crisafulli is at a pediatrician’s office for her 11-year-old son’s physical. She’d scheduled it months ago, but while she’s here she has a question about the H1N1 vaccine: When will it be available, and how soon can her son get it?

She’s worried because he has asthma, which puts him at higher risk of complications from the flu.

“It was funny because one of my friends had said that her daughter had got the H1N1 vaccine, but you hear on the news that nobody has it yet,” Crisafulli said. “So how can she get it if they don’t have it? It just seemed kind of weird.”

A pregnant patient receives an H1N1 vaccination in obstetrics at Brigham and Women's Hospital on Tuesday in Boston. (AP)

A pregnant patient receives an H1N1 vaccination in obstetrics at Brigham and Women's Hospital on Tuesday. Public health guidelines say high-risk groups, such as pregnant women, get the vaccine first. (AP)

Not just weird, but also mysterious to a lot of people. Public health guidelines say high-risk groups get the vaccine first. That includes pregnant women, health care workers and children. But Crisafulli doesn’t see much consistency in how the vaccine is being handed out.

“Why does one doctor’s office have it and no other?” she asked. “And are they holding it back, which I don’t think that they would do? But you never know.”

Crisafulli’s pediatrician, Dr. Ben Kruskal, works for Harvard Vanguard, which finally got its first shipment of the H1N1 vaccine last week. But most of that is already gone because Harvard Vanguard only got enough for 1 percent of its 400,000 patients.

“I think people are all using the same broad principles, which is trying to assess who needs the vaccine the most,” Dr. Kruskal said. “But, at this point, it’s hard to say that there isn’t some randomness or luck built into the process.”

Dr. Kruskal told Crisafulli her son would probably get a dose while he was there. But the supply is so small, Kruskal said, that even some high-risk patients, like teenagers, aren’t always making the cut.

“You know, the CDC includes all people under age 24 in the high-risk group,” Kruskal noted. “But we clearly don’t have enough to even give it to all those people who have appointments.”

Cambridge pediatrician Michael Yogman has the same dilemma. So far, his office has received a few hundred doses, but it needs a few thousand. And the vaccine comes in different types — some only for babies, some only for pregnant women, and so on.

That’s why Dr. Yogman describes the process of matching vaccines to patients as a “jigsaw puzzle.”

“Although you’d like to do all the high-risk asthmatics, if all we’re getting is nasal vaccine, we can’t give it to them,” Yogman said. “So then what do we do?”

What he does is give it to a patient who can take the nasal vaccine, even if that person isn’t as high-risk as someone else. Because the vaccine isn’t helping anyone if it just sits in a refrigerator. And if a doctor’s office doesn’t seem to be using its vaccine supply, it won’t get as many shipments in the future.

“Some people who perhaps aren’t in the high-priority groups are getting it because we either give it to them when we see them,” Yogman said, “or we’re going to be faced with trying to get 3,000 people in between two weeks in mid-December when greater supplies are available.”

That’s not a stampede any doctor wants.

So decisions about which patients get doses often come down to who already has an appointment scheduled. Or whether the type of vaccine on hand is safe for the patient on the examining table.

And sometimes, Dr. Yogman said, it’s just good timing.

“There was one patient, when they walked into my examining room there was no vaccine,” Yogman recalled. “By the time we finished and walked out, I saw a box on the floor. I said, ‘Wait a minute.’ I unpacked it and gave them the vaccine. That’s luck.”

That kind of random fortune helps explain why some people who have the same doctor have been able to get the vaccine and others haven’t.

And different providers are taking different approaches. In Brookline, for example, the public health department has too few doses to hold a public clinic, so it’s asking school nurses to identify which students need the vaccine.

So if you want a dose, your best bet is to keep calling — and get your name on as many waiting lists as possible.

Your Comments
  • [...] Sacha Pfeiffer at WBUR tries to sort out who is getting the vaccine and who isn’t:With the H1N1 swine flu vaccine in high demand and short supply in Massachusetts and nationwide, [...]

    Posted by Getting an H1N1 flu shot in Massachusetts « Boston Health News on November 7, 2009, at 12:50 PM
  • [...] Sacha Pfeiffer at WBUR tries to sort out who is getting the vaccine and who isn’t:With the H1N1 swine flu vaccine in high demand and short supply in Massachusetts and nationwide, [...]

  • Where and when are priority groups going to able to get the H1N1 if not from their own doctor’s? I am 7 months pregnant and OB is at a major Boston medical center which currently has no more vaccine left for OB pts. . vaccines were given to those who were fortunate enough to have appointments that were scheduled at time of availability regardless of due date. So for many of us who are further along with already compromised lung capacity due to stage of pregancy and will deliver during flu season with even higher risk newborns we are also out of luck . . As with the concerns above, cannot go to another provider as only existing pts can get the vaccine.

    Posted by Beth Mac on November 1, 2009, at 2:49 PM
  • Where can we find alternative places to get the flu and H1N1 vaccine? Despite being a physician and pregnant, I have been turned away from my hospital’s occ health department (despite their having the vaccines), and my PCP and OB/Gyn office does not have either vaccine available.

    Posted by Melissa on October 30, 2009, at 8:44 PM
  • This is really infurating, and I’m glad you wrote this article. The big problem is that, if your pediatrician doesn’t have the vaccine, you have no alternate routes to pursue. Doctors will only vaccinate existing patients. If your doc doesn’t have it, you’re out of luck.

    I can’t get my 3 year old healthy son vaccinated because my docs office didn’t order FluMist, and they are reserving the shot for high risk patients (which I completely understand). Boston Childrens Hospital primary care center, however, does have supply of H1N1 FluMist intended for healthy children. Yet they won’t vaccinate my son because he’s not an existing patient; so their supply sits in their office right now, unused, even though more is forthcoming.

    I’ve sent emails to the DPH and the governors office asking this exact question–why was it decided that initial shipments would go almost exclusively to private health care providers? The DPH has essentially eliminated any alternate routes you may pursue. You are at the mercy of one doctors office. If you’re pregnant and your doc doesn’t have it, no other doc is going to give it to you because you’re not their patient. Did nobody at the DPH consider this fact before this ridiculous distribution system was put in place?

    And why is it that other states with far fewer doses per 1000 residents available managed to distribute to doctors offices and run a few public clinics? Sure the lines were long, but you had some options to pursue.

    Of course these questions to my beloved State went unanswered. DPH wouldn’t even post my comment on their “public” blog.

    Posted by Tracy DeGregorio on October 29, 2009, at 1:22 PM
  • Hello — WBUR’s Sacha Pfeiffer here, responding to the below note by Steve: I did not intend to suggest in my story that there is a “special” vaccine for pregnant women, or a specific vaccine formulation. Instead, federal public health officials advise that pregnant women receive an injectable vaccine rather than a nasal spray vaccine (FluMist). As the CDC’s website explains: “Pregnant women should get the ‘flu shot,’ a vaccine made with killed flu virus. This one is given with a needle, usually in the arm. The other type of flu vaccine, a nasal spray, is not approved for pregnant women. This vaccine is made with live, weakened flu virus. Nasal spray flu vaccine should be used only in healthy people 2-49 years of age who are not pregnant. The nasal spray vaccine is safe for women after they have delivered, even if they are nursing.”

    Posted by Sacha Pfeiffer on October 29, 2009, at 9:23 AM
  • YOU MADE AN ERROR IN THE FOLLOWING:
    “Cambridge pediatrician Michael Yogman has the same dilemma. So far, his office has received a few hundred doses, but it needs a few thousand. And the vaccine comes in different types — some only for babies, some only for pregnant women, and so on.” wHILE IT IS IN FACT TRUE THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES, THE ERROR HERE IS THAT THERE IS NO VACCINE THAT IS SPECIAL FOR PREGNANT WOMEN.

    WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT:
    I FEAR PEOPLE WILL HAVE HEARD YOUR BROADCAST THIS AM AND THINK THAT THEIR OBSTETRICIAN IS WRONG WHEN THEY DISCUSS THE VACCINE. THIS IS A VERY HIGH RISK POPULATION AND PREGNANT WOMEN REALLY NEED TO GET VACCINATED AND THEY DO NOT NEED ANY EXTRA ANXIETY OR FEAR.

    Thank you very much for your time,
    Steve Mendes
    Pediatrician
    Wareham Pediatric Associates
    Wareham, MA
    508-295-8622; backlines: 508-295-1976, 295-5107

    Posted by Steven Mendes, MD on October 29, 2009, at 9:10 AM
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