WBURInterviewing Mary Daly, Unapologetic Feminist Theologian

BOSTON — I’ve interviewed hundreds of people in my more than 10 years as a reporter at WBUR. Today alone I’ve interviewed three.

But some people stick in my memory and Boston College professor and feminist Mary Daly is one of them. She passed away Sunday at a nursing home in Gardner.

Mary Daly appears in Middlesex Superior Court in Cambridge, May 24, 1999, after taking a leave of absence from Boston College rather than accept a male student into one of her classes. (AP)

Mary Daly appears in Middlesex Superior Court in Cambridge, May 24, 1999, after taking a leave of absence from Boston College rather than accept a male student into one of her classes. (AP)

I met her in 1999 at her apartment on Crystal Lake in Newton. We talked about her view that women learn better in the classroom when there aren’t men present. She enforced this view by barring men from her courses at Boston College.

The university ordered her to accept a male student who had hired a lawyer after he wasn’t permitted in her class. She steadfastly refused and filed a countersuit. The university eventually settled with her in 2001 and she agreed to retire.

She was unapologetic in her views, lively in her defense of them. She wouldn’t and didn’t compromise them, even though it led to “early” retirement, as she probably called it, at the age of 72.

Most people would have been asking to retire at that age, but Mary Daly — a feminist writer, theologian and philosopher — wanted to keep teaching.

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  • Audrey

    I think there is a lot of academic research that supports the idea that women do a whole lot better in higher education at all women colleges. There is much academic research that suggests that girls suffer in high school because of male domination of classes. Amazing what is not said about the men who tried to sue Boston College.
    They were funded by a right wing group, the two male students had not fulfilled prerequisit classes and were unqualified to take Daly’s class, but cowardly Boston College just caved. I don’t think a male scholar of her calibre would have ever been treated as shabbily, but who is going to remember those small minded men, when Mary Daly’s work and influence on modern feminism will live as long as women desire to protect her from patriarchal erasure. A woman of conviction, a woman who stood up for women 100% all the time. She never failed us, and I will always miss her great mind, her clever and hysterical words, her passion! Not just a dull academic, a real woman with an absolute passion for learning and teaching. They don’t make them like that anymore!

  • Gaurav

    Much as it pains me to support something funded by the right wing, I’m sorry but I would have to agree with the students who filed it. Most students don’t have the financial wherewithal to file suits anyways so someone would have to support them in their fight against the university.

    Prof. Daly is perfectly entitled to her views on the best way of learning for women but she should have had the courage of her convictions and sought a job at an all women’s college where could implement the. Barring all tuition paying men from courses they are entitled to take at her institution is indefensible, even if the couple that sued may not have been actually eligible because of prerequisites. Lets look at it this way–if someone came up with research that showed that white students learned better with other white students and a professor decided to exclude minorities from their classroom, they would probably be sacked forthwith.

  • maxdaddy

    Daly’s stand about men in classes was a change. When I was at Boston College, 1967-1971, her students were men, and they–we–, were enthusiastically there: Daly’s courses were tough, and for one of them I took, each of the two exams was a one-on-one oral, an astounding commitment of a professor’s time. It became, at least, a commonplace that Daly was a shrew, but nothing could have been further from my experience with her. She endured with patience and friendliness, over one semester’s course on the theology of Paul Tillich, a litany of my questions, in class and during office hours. She was reserved always by temperament, but always friendly and focussed on the subject at hand. Her later decision to proscribe male students always saddened me: it was, I felt, their loss. I will always remember her as one of my most memorable Boston College professors. I will never forget the excitement of reading The Church and the Second Sex or Beyond God the Father. Ave atque vale.

  • Rich

    She was a sexist. The same as the male sexists that she opposed. There really isn’t much to celebrate about this person. The world will be better off when neither type of sexist is around.

  • Richard

    I was not aware of Mary Daly until the 1999 brouhaha but at around the same time she came to give a public lecture at my state university. One of the preconditions of her appearance was that men would not be allowed to ask questions following the presentation. It was this outrageous gesture and the lack of objection to it from feminists, the media and the university that brought about my final alienation from feminism, with which, as a male, I had once naively thought I could identify.
    Mary Daly, in the final phases of her career, was not just “eccentric” or “boundary-pushing”, she was dangerously crazy, an unapologetic female supremaciist who calmly endorsed the idea of mass extermination of males to bring about her gynocentric utopia. What saddens me most is that amidst all the posthumous accolades no prominent feminist or media figure is willing to step up and call attention this simple fact. In a world where the creation of an androcidal pathogen would appear to be a likelier means of cleansing the planet of male “contamination” (as Daly sweetly puts it) than the gyno-spiritual energies or extaterrestrial intervention she placed her hopes in is it unreasonable to ask whether Professor Daly, given the opportunity, would have been willing to open the bottle?

  • http://lydiabreen.com/ labreen222

    This is about so much more than not letting male students in a classroom.

    It is hard to look back and imagine whata breath of fresh air Mary Daly’s books brought into the lives of young women in the 1970′s. What a eye-opening gift to consider the notion of female divinity.

    For an interesting visual aspect to this story, see an article about San Francisco artist Colette Crutcher’s mural of the Goddess/Virgin Tontanzin.

    The article is in part a tribute to Mary Daly:

    http://lydiabreen.com/2009/12/11/the-virgin-among-us/

  • Richard

    Yes,this is about so much more than not letting male students into a classroom in violation of Title IX (according to the female judge who ruled on the case, whom Daly bitterly referred to as an “Aunt Tom.”) It is about whether American feminists are concerned about equal rights or solely with womens’ rights, or rather with womens’ interests.

    I have no beef with anyones theology but I don’t think it is legitimate to look at the “liberating” aspects of a person’s thought and ignore the distateful parts. Many people no doubt found Heidegger liberating. Once,I found Jung “liberating”. When I found out that he was a woman -beater and a racialist I changed my view of him. In my book, Daly’s hateful views on male “contamination” of the planet are not theology, but insanity. There can be no argument that Dr. Daly was an influential twentieth century thinker but although she may once have cited Tillich and Thomas Aquinas her deeper affinities lie with Valerie Solanas and Pol Poht.

  • http://www.dedhampsychotherapyassociates Virginia D. Reiber PhD

    As a young graduate student at Harvard in 1974, I had the opportunity to read Mary Daly’s work, speak with her, and hear her speak. There were many young women with me at Harvard; but the male voices predominated in seminars and lecture halls. As a 40 year-old woman, several years later in professional meetings, if a woman who was a non-physician spoke out at medical meetings, her opinion was ignored, as if she had not spoken at all. Or, her opinion would be snickered at in that particular way that older men often have of disparaging young woman who may be too smart for them, in a way to protect themselves from some sort of perceived public comeuppance. In 1999, I do not doubt that Professor Daly refused to allow men in her classroom to give women space, because the trend continues to this day. However, I do believe that our young women are capable of getting beyond American stereotypes of the second-class female. In any mixed gender setting, a woman must feel proud of her stature and intellect, clearly and firmly state her thoughts and logic with belief in her right to speak. It is our responsibility as women to not be bullied by the assumptions of others that they have the right to take up more space than we do. Thank you Mary Daly, for your years of example. You will be missed.

  • captain grumpy

    I was a sole male nurse in a very female orientd workplace. I received nothing but help from fellow nurse but received nothing but cr4pp fro the nurses union which was and stillis full of men hating lesbians.
    thank God they dont make many like that anymore. I dont think that people who supported her realised they were being criminal and could have been jailed.She should have been.
    If a man did it they would be burnt alive at the stake.

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