WBURIndie Auto Mechanics Fight For ‘Right To Repair’

BOSTON — Jeff McLeod is on a fishing trip on a remote lake in Maine.  And to head up there, the small businessman from Marshfield packed his family into two cars, including their 2004 Kia Sedona minivan.

“Brought my mother with us, with three kids and all the fishing equipment, that’s the only way it’s going to work!” he says, laughing.

Check engine light with a dollar sign in the center

If you don't get auto repairs done at the dealer, you might be stuck with the dreaded "Check Engine" light. (Photo illustration by Robert Couse-Baker/Flickr)

The minivan’s working now, but before the trip, its “Check Engine” light lit up.  McLeod dropped it off with his trusty mechanic, Tom’s Service Station in Hanover.  Tom could read the diagnostic code the car’s computer was spitting out, but he didn’t have access to what it meant.  McLeod would have to go to the dealership.

“When you go to your neighborhood mechanic, you drop it off, ‘Hi, Tom, I gave you a call, can you check this out?’ It made me uncomfortable that somebody that had done that amount of work for me over the years was not able to do this,” McLeod says.

Nowadays, stories like this are more and more common. On Friday, the State House could pass a bill that would force car manufacturers to share sophisticated repair information with independent mechanics, not just their dealerships.  That would make Massachusetts first in the nation with the so-called Right to Repair Act.

At Direct Tire in Watertown, owner Barry Steinberg says the car repair business has been changing.

“The average 2009 car, I think, has something like 18 computer parts in it.”

The problem, Steinberg says, is that manufacturers — especially foreign ones — are withholding the computer diagnostics.  How to read and troubleshoot the error codes.  It’s gotten to the point that for some cars, Steinberg can’t even change the oil anymore, something we all used to be able to do in the driveway.  He says the bill up for a vote would change that — by forcing manufacturers to sell the information at a reasonable price.

“It’s a puzzle,” Steinberg says. “All we want is the directions to put the puzzle back together.”

Ernie Boch Jr. disagrees.

“I think it’s like knocking on Coca-Cola’s door and saying: ‘Hey. I am a little cola place down the street, my cola isn’t selling that well, what’s the formula to Coca-Cola? Give it to me.’ And it’s not right!”

“I think it’s like knocking on Coca-Cola’s door and saying: ‘Hey. I am a little cola place down the street, my cola isn’t selling that well, what’s the formula to Coca-Cola?’”
–Ernie Boch Jr.

Boch is a Norwood auto dealer with some of the top performing Honda and Toyota dealerships anywhere.  He says he is forced to invest in costly equipment and sophisticated training for his repair staff.

“We don’t call them mechanics. They’re technicians,” Boch says. “They’re like surgeons, I mean, this is extremely complicated, this is not about willy-nilly giving out information and having every Tom, Dick and Harry working on it.

If Tom, Dick and Harry want to do this work, Boch says they should become dealers. But Steinberg, of Direct Tire, says car manufacturers are just trying to protect dealerships.  They make more of their money from follow-up service than they do selling cars.

Pointing to a silver Pontiac Grand Prix that one of his workers is fixing, Steinberg says if the State House does not pass this bill: “Send me a condolence card, because I’ll be out of business.

“Cause there’s just so many of those Grand Prix’s left.  And when they’re wear out, they’ll be replaced by 2005, 2006, 2010, 2015 cars, and there’s going to be fewer cars that we can fix.”

If the bill does go into law, it will probably be challenged right away in court, because it could affect copy machine companies, vacuum companies — just about any product that has an authorized service provider.

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  • http://NA Dennis Punch

    Ernie Boch Jr. Three words Greedy Greedy Greedy.

  • http://chelseama.gov Karen Budrow

    I simply want my local mechanic to be able to fix my car. If it takes a PhD then it’s not a suitable car for me. I cannot even imagine that a trained mechanic would be deprived of having his own business and owners be deprived of full information as to the mechanics of their vehicle.
    Current practice by auto manufacturers is certainly not “main street” business friendly; more of a consolidation of financial (=all) power.

  • Brian M. Johnson

    Hello I think Mr Boch is very wrong. We have a bill already for coke it is truth in labeling so we know what is in coke, they gave it to us. I think as long as they warranty emission for life of car they can keep codes.
    I work on cars for a living at a local garage in milford and I have fixed cars that dealer cannot fix. I am ASE certified and know I am better that most of their people but do not want to work at a place where I am just a #. I chose to work at a independent garage and I think I have the right to Know. What are there afraid of ???

  • Dave

    Mr. Boch’s analogy is completely bogus: no one is asking for the equivalent of the formula to Coke. Asking for the meaning of the engine codes only tells the mechanic what needs to be repaired – but the REPAIR still needs to be done. Would he rather someone go to the dealer for the diagnosis and then return to the small repair shop to get the work done? BTW, I still do most of my car repair and intend to continue to do so, although it looks like it may be more and more challenging as time goes on…

  • Hortron

    No I still don’t get it. The information is out there. I’m fairly certain that any individual can purchase the appropriate computer interface for their laptop to talk to and understand any manufacturer’s car. However these tools are not cheap.

    But if a shop has to pay several thousand dollars for a hydraulic lift, how is that any different than a few hundred of thousand dollars for technical reference material?

  • Edward Kay

    Half of this story was a waste of listeners’ time. The story included a lot of detail that is totally irrelevant to understanding the matter at hand. Does any listener really need those details?

    A good deal of the amount of time and effort put into the story, and the amount of the amount of air time devoted to this story, could have been used to delve more deeply into this matter. For example, how many cars are now built such that even an oil change must be done by the dealer, and what are some of the brands?

    Similarly, my local mechanic has a computer that allows him to read the codes, and he’s able to fix my car. So clearly the problem is not universal. So how widespread is the problem? How many independent mechanics are affected? Perhaps if you’d spent some time looking into that, rather than including useless details such as the info on the interviewee’s fishing, you could have included some info about that.

    Of course, I understand that doing a story in this manner is *de rigeur* for the electronic media. But a few momems spent investigating this matter would show that there is no research showing that the bulk of listeners really want stories done this way; there might even be some research finding that the bulk of listeners object to stories done in this way.

    Bottom line: I rarely pay attention to local news I hear on WBUR, do not support the station, and I now periodically devote some time to alerting others to the time-wasting reporting habits of WBUR and its reporters. For anyone who has about this matter in print, Mr. Nickisch’s report did not deepen undedrstanding of the issue, or contribute to the listeners’s knowledge in any way.

  • http://www.directtire.com Barry Steinberg

    This is the most basic issue when it comes to consumers rights and anti-trust.
    All the independent repair facilities want is to be able to purchase the same equipment that the dealers purchase, pay and get the same training classes that the technicians at the dealership get and have availablity of full disclosure of repair procedures and we are willing to pay for that also.
    We do not want anything for nothing.
    Level playing field would allow us to fix cars and consumers to have the choice to go to their regular mechanic for non warranty repairs and maintenance.

  • Neal

    I’m curious — just how small is “the small businessman from Marshfield”?

  • Stephen Hughes

    The house of Reps did not bring it to the floor for a vote. Time to chew on my Rep’s ear.

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