On what would constitute justice for this moment"For a lot of people, they want accountability for what these officers have done. Some people are asking for prosecuting law enforcement. I think that's a fine demand and that's not a demand rooted in us being able to change this system, it's holding an individual accountable for their actions. An individual that is tied to an institution that has caused a lot of destruction. I get that demand. "But I do think that the demand of defunding law enforcement becomes a central demand … And, with that demand, it's not just about taking away money from the police, it's about reinvesting those dollars in the black communities. Communities that have been deeply divested from, communities that, some have never felt the impact of having true resources. And so we have to reconsider what we're resourcing. I've been saying we have an economy of punishment over an economy of care."
On the argument for restructuring police funding to help the communities they serve, rather than defunding law enforcement"It's not possible for the entity of law enforcement to be a compassionate, caring governmental agency in black communities. That's not the training, that's not the institution. We have spent the last seven years asking for training, asking for body cameras. The body cameras have done nothing more than show us what's happened over and over again. The training has done nothing but show us that law enforcement and the culture of law enforcement is incapable of changing. "And so what we're asking for is a reinvestment in how we understand what's needed in our communities. Why is law enforcement the first responders for a mental health crisis? Why are they the first responders for domestic violence issues? Why are they the first responders for homelessness? And so those are the first places we can look into. Let alone, let's talk about law enforcement's ability to surveil the community and how much money they're given in surveillance dollars every single year. We have allowed, the public has allowed, for us to have militarized police forces in our communities and we have to stop it."
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