Support WBURFormer DOGE engineer says he was 'surprised' by 'how efficient' the government isPlay08:11Download AudioLauren HodgesPatrick JarenwattananonJuana SummersUpdated June 05, 2025 ShareSahil Lavingia, former DOGE engineer, says he didn't see the fraud and abuse in government spending that he was expecting. (Sahil Lavingia)This article was originally published on June 02, 2025.