Close to 50,000 people worship each week at Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas, which makes senior pastor Joel Osteen the leader of the biggest church in the United States.
For those who can't be there, there are TV broadcasts, Internet streams, Facebook pages and Twitter accounts and many, many books. In fact, the church says that its message reaches tens of millions of people in 100 countries.
Here & Now's Jeremy Hobson spoke with Osteen earlier this year.
This segment aired on December 25, 2015.