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White House chief of staff John Kelly speaks during a White House briefing on Oct. 19, 2017 in Washington, D.C. Kelly spoke about the process of the military notifying family members of a death, his own son's death in Afghanistan and the controversy surrounding the news of President Trump's phone calls to Gold Star families. (Win McNamee/Getty Images)
White House chief of staff John Kelly speaks during a White House briefing on Oct. 19, 2017 in Washington, D.C. Kelly spoke about the process of the military notifying family members of a death, his own son's death in Afghanistan and the controversy surrounding the news of President Trump's phone calls to Gold Star families. (Win McNamee/Getty Images)
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Fallout continues following White House chief of staff John Kelly's dramatic appearance in the White House briefing room last week. Some critics say Kelly, a retired Marine general who lost a son in Afghanistan, crossed a line when he talked about the difference between soldiers and civilians.

Here & Now's Meghna Chakrabarti talks with one of those critics, Robert Killebrew, a retired Army colonel who spent 30 years as an infantry and special forces officer.

This segment aired on October 25, 2017.

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