Russia's invasion of Ukraine may have backfired in one way: It has prompted longtime neutral countries Finland and Sweden to consider joining NATO.
Russian President Vladimir Putin cited NATO expansion as a major reason he started the war.
Last week, a top minister in Finland said it's "highly likely" to join the military alliance. And Sweden is discussing it, too.
Here & Now's Scott Tong speaks with Jason Moyer of the Wilson Center.
This segment aired on April 19, 2022.