Judge orders Rudy Giuliani to transfer some assets

A federal judge has ordered former President Donald Trump's then-attorney Rudy Giuliani to transfer numerous assets to the Georgia election workers that he defamed after the 2020 election, falsely claiming that they tried to steal votes from Trump.

Here & Now's Robin Young speaks with Andrew Kirtzman, who covered Giuliani for decades as a reporter. He's the author of "Giuliani: The Rise and Tragic Fall of America's Mayor" and is now a political consultant.