Fact-checking DOGE's claims to have found more than $50 billion in waste and fraud

President Trump claims that the Department of Government Efficiency will cut “hundreds of billions” of dollars from the federal budget. Most budget experts think the real number is much lower, more like $4 billion.

Here & Now's Asma Khalid speaks with NPR's Stephen Fowler about how much waste and fraud DOGE might actually find, and what that means for the taxpayer. Plus, how DOGE's cost-cutting measures would stack up against the House's proposed budget, which the Congressional Budget Office projects could cost taxpayers $21.8 trillion over ten years.