What does the future of Ukraine look like, 3 years into the war?

It's been three years since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers and civilians have been killed, more than 10 million people have been displaced, and about 20% of Ukrainian territory is under Russian control.

Here & Now's Scott Tong talks to NPR Ukraine correspondent Joanna Kakissis about the toll the war has taken on Ukraine and what the future looks like.