How presidents have blurred the line between politician and celebrity

In a Vogue profile, reporter Maya Singer calls California Gov. Gavin Newsom "embarrassingly handsome." He's a possible 2028 presidential candidate, and the profile is a reminder of how the line between politician and celebrity can be fuzzy.

Here & Now's Tiziana Dearing speaks with Kathryn Brownell, a professor of history and director of the Center for American Political History, Media and Technology at Purdue University, about the role of celebrity and charisma for presidents in the past and present.