Some North Carolina swing voters think Trump is out of touch

As Democrats fight to take back the Senate in 2026, North Carolina is a key state to watch. Public opinion strategist Rich Thau spoke this week with a dozen North Carolinians who voted for former President Joe Biden in 2020, then switched to President Trump in 2024.

Here & Now's Anthony Brooks speaks with Thau, who runs the firm Engagious.

Editor's note:  Engagious hosts focus groups for the Swing Voter Project, an NPR editorial partner.