Author says engaging DEI conversation with white men is key

Amid growing pushback against diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives on college campuses and businesses across the country, white men are key to move the work of inclusion forward, says Colette Phillips, author of the book "The Includers."

Phillips, who is also the founder and CEO of Colette Phillips Communications, and Bob Rivers, CEO of Eastern Bank, sits down with Radio Boston to discuss why that is.