In a new push for peace in eastern Ukraine, the leaders of France and Germany are in Kiev to push a proposal to end the fighting between government forces and pro-Russian separatists in the eastern part of the country.
This comes as the U.S. edges toward offering Ukraine lethal military aid.
The BBC's David Stern joins Here & Now's Robin Young from Kiev to tell us what this could mean.
- David Stern, correspondent for the BBC in Ukraine. He tweets @loydstern.
This segment aired on February 5, 2015.