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Kim Jong Un 'Very Unlikely' To Give Up Nuclear Weapons, Former NATO Commander Says05:15
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Secretary of State nominee Mike Pompeo testifies before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee during his confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C, on April 12, 2018. (Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images)
Secretary of State nominee Mike Pompeo testifies before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee during his confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C, on April 12, 2018. (Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images)
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President Trump confirmed Wednesday that CIA Director Mike Pompeo recently made a secret visit to North Korea for a meeting with Kim Jong Un.

Here & Now's Eric Westervelt (@Ericnpr) speaks with retired Navy Adm. James Stavridis (@stavridisj), dean of the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University and former supreme allied commander of NATO, about U.S.-North Korea talks and the likelihood of the North abandoning its nuclear weapons program.

"If I were advising Kim Jong Un, I wouldn't advise him to do so," Stavridis says. "And I think that he is very unlikely to give up his nuclear weapons, as he looks at what has happened to other dictators, like [former Libyan Prime Minister] Muammar Gaddafi, who did so."

This segment aired on April 18, 2018.

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