Former Clinton Chief Of Staff On Trump's New Pick For Acting Chief Of Staff09:43
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In this Wednesday, Sept. 13, 2017, file photo, Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney departs after a television interview at the White House, in Washington. (Alex Brandon, File/AP)
In this Wednesday, Sept. 13, 2017, file photo, Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney departs after a television interview at the White House, in Washington. (Alex Brandon, File/AP)

Here & Now's Jeremy Hobson discusses President Trump's new pick for acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, with Leon Panetta, who served as White House chief of staff for President Clinton and as both CIA director and secretary of defense under President Obama.

This segment aired on December 18, 2018.

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