Controversy Continues Over Navy Commander's Ousting

There are calls for acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly to resign after a fiery speech Monday, where he said that the now-ousted commander of the USS Theodore Roosevelt Brett Crozier was either "too naive or too stupid" to lead.

Modly has now apologized. Crozier was ousted after writing a memo that was leaked to the press raising red flags about the coronavirus spreading on his ship.

Here & Now's Robin Young speaks with NPR's Tom Bowman (@TBowmanNPR), who covers the Pentagon.