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'Good Bot, Bad Bot': Episode III

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James Vlahos, CEO of HereafterAI, holds a photograph of his parents, John and Martha Vlahos, outside his home on November 11, 2022 in El Cerrito, California. James created a chatbot or Dadbot as he calls it which allowed him to reconnect with his deceased father, the original motivation for starting HereafterAI. (Getty Images)
James Vlahos, CEO of HereafterAI, holds a photograph of his parents, John and Martha Vlahos, outside his home on November 11, 2022 in El Cerrito, California. James created a chatbot or Dadbot as he calls it which allowed him to reconnect with his deceased father, the original motivation for starting HereafterAI. (Getty Images)

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Bots are everywhere. They're all over social media platforms, chatrooms, phone apps. These pieces of software — which are meant to imitate human behavior and language — influence our daily lives in sneaky, surprising ways.

In the third episode of Endless Thread's series "Good Bot, Bad Bot," co-hosts Ben Brock Johnson and Amory Sivertson explore a growing field of artificial intelligence: immortalizing the dead through predictive AI text.

They talk with two individuals who used this tech in different ways, and discuss how these bots can help us improve our understanding of grief.

Megan Cattel Freelance digital producer, WBUR Podcasts
Megan Cattel was a freelance digital producer for WBUR Podcasts.

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Ben Brock Johnson Executive Producer, Podcasts
Ben Brock Johnson is the executive producer of podcasts at WBUR and co-host of the podcast Endless Thread.

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Amory Sivertson Host and Senior Producer, Podcasts
Amory Sivertson is a senior producer for podcasts and the co-host of Endless Thread.

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